Season 2, Episode 7
The Ripple Effects of Human Flourishing

October 28, 2025

The Hidden Work of Leadership

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Episode Description

In the world of mental health care, wellness is often reduced to a lowering of symptoms. While fewer symptoms are vital to health and healing, it doesn’t always lead to a thriving life. So then, how does one view mental health through a wider lens—the lens of flourishing?

In this episode of The Hidden Work of Leadership, Michaela O’Donnell talks with Mark Eastburg, president and CEO of Pine Rest Christian Mental Health Services, about the narrow medical models of health and the wisdom behind the interdependence of flourishing. From elementary schools to thriving local businesses, Mark explains how the ripple effects of individual flourishing extend to communities and vice versa. Together, they discuss

  • why the concept of shalom should shape both individual and communal definitions of flourishing
  • how leaders can better measure outcomes and successes of flourishing
  • the large-scale ripple effects of any and every job—including yours

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Learn more about Mark Eastburg.
Check out Pine Rest and their work.